tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post410443603004945757..comments2024-03-08T07:31:03.679-08:00Comments on Templestream: If people do these things when the tree is green...Rick Wardenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-88504496193596950932013-05-16T20:06:19.152-07:002013-05-16T20:06:19.152-07:00Rick's an epikoros in most every field he gets...Rick's an epikoros in most every field he gets involved in, I'm afraid.<br />imnotandreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850536340957506236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-48982394675298421722013-05-16T16:08:35.395-07:002013-05-16T16:08:35.395-07:00I also notice that you're willing to accept th...I also notice that you're willing to accept the translations when you think they support you, but you appear to be completely rejecting the commentaries which do not.<br /><br />Why pick and choose what you accept in that fashion Rick?<br />It smacks of confirmation bias on your part.Rianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021810579773953296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-89017667763423682062013-05-16T16:05:40.052-07:002013-05-16T16:05:40.052-07:00And when translated into English, the majority of ...<b>And when translated into English, the majority of English translations offer the importance of time, either "in a" green tree or "when" the tree is green:</b><br />"In a" and "when" don't denote time, but can rather denote simple comparison.<br />You still haven't indicated why the change from symbolism (with the good man, or Jesus as the green tree/wood) changes to a literal reading for dry wood. Your reading makes no sense.<br /><br /><b>Not sure what virtual world you are living in.</b><br />The real world, where statistics show improvements.<br /><br /><b>The eugenics movement is alive and well with deep ecology leaders calling for a massive genocide in order to save the earth and to "maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."</b><br />And how much influence do these "deep ecology" leaders have?<br />Are they calling for genocide, or simply for a stop to uncontrolled breeding of humans?<br /><br /><b>Do really think that Gates and Rockefeller are stupid enough not to know that the GMO foods they promote worldwide don't cause harm and sterility?</b><br />You'd need to provide legitimate evidence that GMO foods cause harm and sterility, and since we've been practicing genetic modification of an indirect sort for tens of thousands of years, simply being able to practice genetic modification directly doesn't mean that harm is a necessary by product.<br /><br />Try to limit the tangents you go off on.<br /><br />Rianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021810579773953296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-34497386476349454742013-05-16T15:29:21.941-07:002013-05-16T15:29:21.941-07:00>it is written in ancient Greek, after all.
- ...>it is written in ancient Greek, after all.<br /><br />- And when translated into English, the majority of English translations offer the importance of time, either "in a" green tree or "when" the tree is green:<br /><br />http://biblehub.com/luke/23-31.htm<br /><br />>Goody for the scriptures. When we look at reality, we see that things are getting better, people are less cruel, etc.<br /><br />- Not sure what virtual world you are living in. The eugenics movement is alive and well with deep ecology leaders calling for a massive genocide in order to save the earth and to "maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."<br /><br />http://templestream.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-world-ardor.html<br /><br />This kind of human reduction is seen as a cold and calculated 'directed' human evolution:<br /><br /><br />- "Eugenics is the self-direction of human evolution," - logo of SIE Conference 1921<br /><br />- “Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs” - John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal<br /><br />- “Human suffering is much less important than the suffering of the planet,” - David Brower, former head of the Sierra Club and founder of Friends of the Earth (quote link)<br /><br />- “Just as the human body uses a fever to fight off an infection, Gaia is raising her temperature to expel a harmful parasite – humans.” The Revenge of Gaia, by James Lovelock, father of The Gaia Theory<br /><br />http://templestream.blogspot.com/2009/01/urgent-abortion-news.html<br /><br />Do really think that Gates and Rockefeller are stupid enough not to know that the GMO foods they promote worldwide don't cause harm and sterility? Hmmmmmm. That must be why they both ban GMO foods in their own cafeterias:<br /><br />http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/02/gates-and-rockefeller-cafeterias-reject.htmlRick Wardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-33567265045459924472013-05-16T14:56:31.328-07:002013-05-16T14:56:31.328-07:00You still have not addressed the grammatical issue...<b>You still have not addressed the grammatical issue of why the scripture states "in a" green tree as opposed to a more accurate description supporting your view, "to a" green tree.</b><br />The verse doesn't say "to a green tree" or "in a green tree". The passage reads "en hygros xylon" - it is written in ancient Greek, after all.<br /><br />You haven't addressed the fact that your preferred interpretation involves taking "xylon" both figuratively and literally, with no reason given for the change.<br /><br /><b>The scriptures outline a progressive inhumane coldness that will continue to take hold.</b><br />Goody for the scriptures. When we look at reality, we see that things are getting better, people are less cruel, etc.<br /><br /><b>We believe the Roman empire was cruel, bet we have yet to see what is coming when all moral standards are obliterated in the name of political correctness and when intense hunger causes materialistic people to see other humans as nothing but competitive, useless eaters.</b><br />There are a lot of assertions in that paragraph Rick, with little in the way of back up for them.<br />For instance, you state that all moral standards will be obliterated in the name of political correctness, but political correctness is an attempt at imposing moral standards - your statement in incoherent.<br />You'll also need to show that the worlds food supply will abruptly break down, something which shows no signs of actually happening.Rianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021810579773953296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-66496260569802248662013-05-16T14:45:59.426-07:002013-05-16T14:45:59.426-07:00Hi Rian,
>It seems rather more likely that a g...Hi Rian,<br /><br />>It seems rather more likely that a green tree is a good man, and a bad man is dry.<br /><br />- You still have not addressed the grammatical issue of why the scripture states "in a" green tree as opposed to a more accurate description supporting your view, "to a" green tree.<br /><br />And we may both be right in some respects. There may be a comparison of 'then and now,' (as I've proposed) as well as the figurative use of trees (as you and others propose) and we both may still have common ground.<br /><br />The scriptures outline a progressive inhumane coldness that will continue to take hold. The love of many will grow cold in the last days because sin will abound: "Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold..." Matthew 24.12<br /><br />We believe the Roman empire was cruel, bet we have yet to see what is coming when all moral standards are obliterated in the name of political correctness and when intense hunger causes materialistic people to see other humans as nothing but competitive, useless eaters.Rick Wardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-55171609849249920372013-05-16T10:04:20.406-07:002013-05-16T10:04:20.406-07:00It seems rather more likely that a green tree is a...It seems rather more likely that a green tree is a good man, and a bad man is dry. See Ezekiel 17:24 for similar symbolism.<br /><br />Also, your preferred phrasing takes the green tree to be symbolic and the dry trees to be literal, but it seems rather obvious that the symbolism is the same across the statement (which leads to the more standard understanding of a tree being a man, which was apparently common symbolism to the Jews).Rianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021810579773953296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-57646488310340131322013-05-16T10:00:03.334-07:002013-05-16T10:00:03.334-07:00Proof texting and taking passages out of context R...Proof texting and taking passages out of context Rick.<br /><br />The more things change, the more they stay the same :-)<br /><br />Rianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021810579773953296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-28971538064484768682013-04-28T18:01:56.670-07:002013-04-28T18:01:56.670-07:00Because the admin of this web page is working, no ...Because the admin of this web page is working, no hesitation very soon it will be well-known, due to its quality contents.<br /><br /><br />my web site ... <a href="http://www.jahedif.com/wiki/RosaliebmEvansyr" rel="nofollow">best registry cleaners</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-64521522778296805472013-04-27T15:02:19.862-07:002013-04-27T15:02:19.862-07:00Nice post. I used to be checking constantly this w...Nice post. I used to be checking constantly this weblog <br />and I'm inspired! Extremely helpful information particularly the closing part :) I maintain such information much. I was seeking this particular information for a long time. Thank you and good luck.<br /><br />my web page <a href="http://scottaar.scripts.mit.edu/zoo/index.php?title=User:HigginsFlagg301" rel="nofollow">golden retriever labrador mix</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-73959620436188824602013-04-27T14:19:39.624-07:002013-04-27T14:19:39.624-07:00I every time used to read paragraph in news papers...I every time used to read paragraph in news papers but now as I <br />am a user of net therefore from now I am using net for content, thanks to web.<br /><br /><br /><br />Check out my web-site :: <a href="http://www.clienteambiental.com/story.php?id=49352" rel="nofollow">Excellent Info On Golden Retrievers Facts</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com