tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post7860186931020117391..comments2024-03-08T07:31:03.679-08:00Comments on Templestream: An Open Letter to PZ and Skatje MyersRick Wardenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-3828716327859651992012-05-30T20:16:29.953-07:002012-05-30T20:16:29.953-07:00Reynold,
>You were trying to get the man to SU...Reynold,<br /><br />>You were trying to get the man to SUPPORT IT?<br /><br />- You shouldn't believe everything you read, Reynold. I simply asked to know his opinion. I asked for clarity and PZ could not even answer one of the three simple direct questions I had asked.<br /><br />ttp://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/05/reply-to-pz-myers-objective-moral-tools.html<br /><br />>Are you now going to finally PUBLICALLY APOLOGIZE to Myers and his daughter?<br /><br />- Um, let me see. I ask two people to clarify their views on a subject. None of my three simple questions are addressed and I'm called all sorts of insults and, to top it off, a commenter named Reynold believes that I should be the one apologizing. You can't make this stuff up. <br /><br />"I do not support bestiality..."<br /><br />>So are we done now?<br /><br />Um, Reynold, perhaps you can translate PZ's intended meaning in the following quote:<br /><br />"I don’t object to bestiality in a very limited set of specific conditions, but do not support it in any way.”[9]<br /><br />http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/05/reply-to-pz-myers-objective-moral-tools.html<br /><br />Now, when PZ states ""I don’t object to bestiality in a very limited set of specific conditions," - What conditions do you believe he is referring to? Is this when animals appear to enjoy it? Is this when sheep seem to bleat with delight? Can you help me out a little with this interpretation, Reynold?<br /><br />Seriously, what do you believe PZ is referring to here?Rick Wardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-38448592121239388702012-05-30T20:15:15.249-07:002012-05-30T20:15:15.249-07:00Reynold,
>You were trying to get the man to SU...Reynold,<br /><br />>You were trying to get the man to SUPPORT IT?<br /><br />- You shouldn't believe everything you read, Reynold. I simply asked to know his opinion. I asked for clarity and PZ could not even answer one of the three simple direct questions I had asked.<br /><br />ttp://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/05/reply-to-pz-myers-objective-moral-tools.html<br /><br />>Are you now going to finally PUBLICALLY APOLOGIZE to Myers and his daughter?<br /><br />- Um, let me see. I ask two people to clarify their views on a subject. None of my three simple questions are addressed and I'm called all sorts of insults and, to top it off, a commenter named Reynold believes that I should be the one apologizing. You can't make this stuff up. <br /><br />"I do not support bestiality..."<br /><br />>So are we done now?<br /><br />Um, Reynold, perhaps you can translate PZ's intended meaning in the following quote:<br /><br />"I don’t object to bestiality in a very limited set of specific conditions, but do not support it in any way.”[9]<br /><br />http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/05/reply-to-pz-myers-objective-moral-tools.html<br /><br />Now, when PZ states ""I don’t object to bestiality in a very limited set of specific conditions," - What conditions do you believe he is referring to? Is this when animals appear to enjoy it? Is this when sheep seem to bleat with delight? Can you help me out a little with this interpretation, Reynold?<br /><br />Seriously, what do you believe PZ is referring to here?Rick Wardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-34818688224285986472012-05-27T18:39:14.032-07:002012-05-27T18:39:14.032-07:00Of course he's not going to apologise. To apol...Of course he's not going to apologise. To apologise would be show some some humiliity, and a capacity to realise when you're mistaken and want to make amends.<br />Rick appears to lack these basic traits - he's all ignorance wrapped up in a thick shell of arrogance.Havokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05770427187548083625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-59288735850603601822012-05-27T18:36:35.700-07:002012-05-27T18:36:35.700-07:00Translation: "I couldn't actually underst...Translation: "I couldn't actually understand the link, so please dumb it down a little for me."<br /><br />Because I'm feeling slightly generous, here's a quotation from the link:<br /><i>"One of the unpublished experiments by American chemist Stanley Miller (under his University of Chicago mentor, Nobelist Harold Urey) actually produced a wider variety of organic molecules than the experiment that made Miller famous. "</i><br /><br />Basically, the Miller-Urey experiments were more successful than originally thought, and science has progressed even further in the interim.<br /><br />But since you seem comfortable commenting authoritatively on origin of life issues, you already knew that didn't you Rick?Havokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05770427187548083625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-46883011637924395482012-05-27T18:24:44.471-07:002012-05-27T18:24:44.471-07:00imnotandrei,
>So, Rick, now that you've do...imnotandrei,<br /><br />>So, Rick, now that you've done that, are you ever going to get back to discussing the Miller-Urey experiment,<br /><br />- Your last comment on the Miller-Urey experiment was a request for me to go and read some link:<br /><br />(May 4, 2012 12:09 AM)<br /><br />As for the Miller-Urey experiments: I call your attention to this:<br /><br />http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081016141411.htm<br /><br />And when you're done reading that, we can discuss Miller-Urey further<br /><br />- How many times do I have to tell you atheist critics that you need to summarize your ideas if you want me to consider them. I'm not going to waste my time and read every link that people offer and say "This link refuters you..." because I've found they are dead end rabbit trails that do not lead to any substantial arguments. If you can't even summarize the point, it must not be worth very much.Rick Wardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-42866286026246811142012-05-27T18:11:59.339-07:002012-05-27T18:11:59.339-07:00Thanks for offering a typical atheist comment. It ...Thanks for offering a typical atheist comment. It really helps to show how enlightened your critique is. I might ad that PZ Myers' reply was not much better - Longer, but not better. The usual kindergarten name calling and, no big surprise, he didn't answer any of the three simple questions I asked.<br /><br />http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/05/reply-to-pz-myers-objective-moral-tools.htmlRick Wardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689451026838986088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-58729009181440261862012-05-22T21:10:18.098-07:002012-05-22T21:10:18.098-07:00Yeah, it seems that Rick can dish it, but he can&#...Yeah, it seems that Rick can dish it, but he can't take it.<br /><br />It's why people like Rick don't deserve respect.Reynoldhttp://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-2494703583527378172012-05-22T20:48:33.864-07:002012-05-22T20:48:33.864-07:00Since Myers used "bad words" to (accurat...Since Myers used "bad words" to (accurately) describe Rick, I wouldn't be surprised if Rick decided the response didn't count.<br />He has a remarkably thin skin, does our Rick!Havokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05770427187548083625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-44167676654736764042012-05-22T20:46:56.573-07:002012-05-22T20:46:56.573-07:00I don't think Myers goes far enough in using &...I don't think Myers goes far enough in using "shockingly dishonest asshold" to describe Rick. He's far worse than that :-)Havokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05770427187548083625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-18244221780880900622012-05-22T20:45:40.694-07:002012-05-22T20:45:40.694-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Havokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05770427187548083625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-83927565030300311102012-05-22T16:24:50.924-07:002012-05-22T16:24:50.924-07:00This may well be; it also serves to remind him fro...This may well be; it also serves to remind him from time to time that he's leaving a lot of unanswered questions behind him before he goes off and makes more claims about his "unrefuted" proofs. ;)imnotandreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850536340957506236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-77472254843581134412012-05-22T16:02:36.603-07:002012-05-22T16:02:36.603-07:00Well put. Myer's response, which I linked to ...Well put. Myer's response, which I linked to below kind of deals with that.<br /><br /><br />So Warden: <b>Are you now going to finally PUBLICALLY APOLOGIZE to Myers and his daugher</b>?Reynoldhttp://www.skepticfriends.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-19512308874803012762012-05-22T15:36:31.781-07:002012-05-22T15:36:31.781-07:00Whoops. Forgot this from Myer's post:
I do no...Whoops. Forgot this from Myer's post:<br /><i>I do not support bestiality. No one I know does. But we are capable of assessing it objectively, unlike these wretched Christians and their brains full of lies and disgust.</i><br /><br />So are we done now?Reynoldhttp://www.skepticfriends.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-22613608345169514312012-05-22T15:32:31.348-07:002012-05-22T15:32:31.348-07:00Well, Rick, your answer is within this post.
Read...Well, Rick, your answer is <a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/05/22/the-objective-morality-gotcha/" rel="nofollow">within this post</a>.<br /><br />Read down to where Myers mentions you:<br /><i>In another example of the dishonest Christian gotcha, lately a thick-skulled Christian idiot name Rick Warden has been pestering me with email and comments demanding that I justify support for bestiality. Seriously, dude? What the fuck is wrong with you?<br /> <br />Mr Warden is so obsessed with bestiality that he even claims the Friday Cephalopod is a “weekly animal sex post” in one of his incessant whines about my odious imaginary support for bestiality. He’s a shockingly dishonest asshole; he does fit my expectations of Christian liars for Jesus, though, who think nothing of accusing atheists of being moral nihilists who approve of torturing toddlers, or of being promiscuous goat-rapers.<br /></i><br /><br />Should I put quotes around that to make it more clear to you?<br /><br />This is even worse than I thought: You were trying to get the man to SUPPORT IT?<br /><br />The fuck?<br /><br /><br />Now that that bullshit's out of the way, we can deal with the other bullshit on this blog.Reynoldhttp://www.skepticfriends.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-74914911981587885052012-05-22T15:32:25.477-07:002012-05-22T15:32:25.477-07:00Imnotandrei, speaking from experience, Rick and re...Imnotandrei, speaking from experience, Rick and reason are two incompatible things. The only thing you can do is make fun of his delusions <br /><br />Rus anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-29388823144901243362012-05-22T14:07:32.854-07:002012-05-22T14:07:32.854-07:00It rather sounds like you actually can't find ...It rather sounds like you actually can't find moral grounds to oppose bestiality (and are particularly interested in the matter) beyond your particular brand of christianity. I hope you stay christian, at least for the sake of animals. This is sick. No one wants to know about the sexual obsessions you struggle with, please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-8331524133852992642012-05-22T13:37:27.035-07:002012-05-22T13:37:27.035-07:00So, Rick, now that you've done that, are you e...So, Rick, now that you've done that, are you ever going to get back to discussing the Miller-Urey experiment, and the issues around the problems with a "fine-tuning" argument, or are you content to remain refuted? I'm perfectly happy if you are, but I figured I should check.imnotandreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850536340957506236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1645439856635422478.post-61381624068301358832012-05-22T11:00:06.116-07:002012-05-22T11:00:06.116-07:00You are beyond stupid...You are beyond stupid...JWG4https://www.blogger.com/profile/08638987116065719191noreply@blogger.com