According to a recent article in the Independent, Brits are angered by Bill Gates' gift of £6.4m to an English research laboratory intent on creating new versions of genetically engineered corn and barley. In 2003, Britain showed a 5 to 1 public rejection of GE foods in a poll, even as professors, clergymen, politicians and professionals signed a pledge to pull up any genetically modified crops that may be grown commercially in Britain. Also in 2003, the largest genetically modified seed producer in the world, Monsanto, announced they were closing down their factory in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire England after continued protests.
However, the will of the people is of little or no concern to Bill Gates who is on a mission to spread GE foods around the world, everywhere except his own cafeteria, that is. Gates was a noted attendee of the 2012 Bilderberg gathering, whose members believe that they are the overlords of a New World Order fiefdom encompassing the entire planet, thus giving them the right to make decisions that influence the life and death of untold millions while at the same time being accountable to no governmental authorities or the people whose lives they ruin. An appropriate motto for Bilderberger King, Gates and his cronies would be "Have it our way."
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation bans GE foods in its own cafeteria, as noted in comments
by insiders who are familiar with the setup. And yet they are involved in aggressively promoting genetically modified foods around the world. When objectively examined and properly tested by
independent agencies, GE foods have been shown to produce sterility, birth defects and long term organ damage. Most people are not aware of the effects of GE foods
simply because the mainstream news companies, in accordance with their financial interests,
do not report the truth on the subject. Sofkill Bill is famous for his endorsement of euthanasia in hospitals and for his unorthodox plan to dramatically reduce the world's population through "new vaccines" and healthcare.
Bill Gates’ approach to addressing global issues epitomizes not just an elitist and arrogant attitude, but a downright evil one involving the manipulation of public opinion and eugenics programs forced upon unknowing populations. Softkill Bill has confessed to a plan to reduce the world's population and GE foods are becoming a venue for this. In addition to causing sterility, patented GE foods and dependent farmer serfdom coincide perfectly with the plan for a global New World Order being established by the UN and the cabal of elitists interested in seeing this come to pass. As the top documentary film, "The World according to Monsanto" outlines, "If they control seed, they control food, they know it – it’s strategic. It’s more powerful than bombs. It’s more powerful than guns. This is the best way to control the populations of the world."
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has recently come out with a new movie promoting women's liberation with an apparent goal of promoting population reduction. It shows lots of happy Playdough mothers with children by their little huts and little villages with happy, melodic music as the commenter states that women want to be empowered to make abortion decisions for themselves, "They want change for themselves and for their children." Of course this promotes a dysfunctional understanding of family decision making in which a father's presence is considered insignificant, if not tyrannical, and, by implication, the possibility of mutual decision making between fathers and mothers is not even offered as a practical possibility. As the little film demonstrates, "family planning" means anti-family values for many who promote population reduction. Gates' NWO manifest destiny is a "have it our way" Bilderberg anti-democratic mafia-style control.
The top rated comment at the Youtube site regarding the above video outlines a thoughtful summary: "All "birth-control" is really about political control. The fundamental argument of the life-controllers is this: "human beings should be able to behave like animals without consequences," ie traditional civilization ought to be dissolved and 99% of humans rendered into slaves to the social engineers. All civilization is built on the sublimated sex-drive healthfully redirected into building culture. The Gates' say, "don't sublimate your animal instincts, stop building culture, leave that to us."
Tags: Bill Gates invests in GE research in Britain, Bill Gates' arrogant cultural elitism, GE food enslavement UN NWO, "family planning" as euphemism for abortion promotion and anti-family values, Bilderberg eugenics anti-democratic mafia-style control, Bilderberg as global mafia, Bill Gates and totalitarianism
Bill Gates’ approach to addressing global issues epitomizes not just an elitist and arrogant attitude, but a downright evil one involving the manipulation of public opinion and eugenics programs forced upon unknowing populations. Softkill Bill has confessed to a plan to reduce the world's population and GE foods are becoming a venue for this. In addition to causing sterility, patented GE foods and dependent farmer serfdom coincide perfectly with the plan for a global New World Order being established by the UN and the cabal of elitists interested in seeing this come to pass. As the top documentary film, "The World according to Monsanto" outlines, "If they control seed, they control food, they know it – it’s strategic. It’s more powerful than bombs. It’s more powerful than guns. This is the best way to control the populations of the world."
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has recently come out with a new movie promoting women's liberation with an apparent goal of promoting population reduction. It shows lots of happy Playdough mothers with children by their little huts and little villages with happy, melodic music as the commenter states that women want to be empowered to make abortion decisions for themselves, "They want change for themselves and for their children." Of course this promotes a dysfunctional understanding of family decision making in which a father's presence is considered insignificant, if not tyrannical, and, by implication, the possibility of mutual decision making between fathers and mothers is not even offered as a practical possibility. As the little film demonstrates, "family planning" means anti-family values for many who promote population reduction. Gates' NWO manifest destiny is a "have it our way" Bilderberg anti-democratic mafia-style control.
The top rated comment at the Youtube site regarding the above video outlines a thoughtful summary: "All "birth-control" is really about political control. The fundamental argument of the life-controllers is this: "human beings should be able to behave like animals without consequences," ie traditional civilization ought to be dissolved and 99% of humans rendered into slaves to the social engineers. All civilization is built on the sublimated sex-drive healthfully redirected into building culture. The Gates' say, "don't sublimate your animal instincts, stop building culture, leave that to us."
Tags: Bill Gates invests in GE research in Britain, Bill Gates' arrogant cultural elitism, GE food enslavement UN NWO, "family planning" as euphemism for abortion promotion and anti-family values, Bilderberg eugenics anti-democratic mafia-style control, Bilderberg as global mafia, Bill Gates and totalitarianism
God have pity on our precious bodily fluids...
ReplyDeleteGod have mercy, indeed.
ReplyDeleteOK. Until you put that picture up there, Rick, I was going to let this lie. But now I have to say something.
ReplyDeleteWe're headed, and have been for a long, long time, for a food crisis -- when the carrying capacity of Earth is exceeded. Long before then, we're going to see more and more problems (and have already started seeing them) due to wildly disparate food distribution.
Now, you'd think there were three ways of solving, or at least helping, the problem of "there's not enough food"
1) Reduce the rate of population growth
2) Increase food productivity
3) Improve food distribution.
Now, you clearly find Bill Gates' quote in that picture damning, or you wouldn't have used it. So, do you object to family planning, vaccines, and reproductive health care/contraception?
Since that is how to reduce the rate of population growth -- that, or else letting chance do it through war, famine, and natural disaster.
You object strongly to GM foods -- which is fine in and of itself -- but what do you propose instead to increase food production?
When the possibility of food redistribution by the government is even raised, you go into a full-blown panic attack about Stalinist starvation and tyranny. So, how do you propose to improve food distribution?
What's your solution to the problems these things are trying to address, since all you do is point with alarm and panic at other people's solutions?
Rick, I see you're letting your inability to tell fantasy from reality run wild here.
ReplyDeleteMost people, when making such ridiculous sounding claims would actually provide compelling evidence. But not you - simply asserting things must be the case is apparently enough to seal the case.
Regardless of what the subject matter is Rick, you seem completely incompetent, an incapable of arguing in a rational manner using logic and evidence.
>So, do you object to family planning, vaccines, and reproductive health care/contraception?
ReplyDelete1. The phrase "family planning" is often a euphemism for "You need an abortion" when considering how organizations such as Planned Parenthood operate.
The billion-dollar abortion giant blatantly lies about basic biology and human development, peer-reviewed medical studies on birth control’s increased risk of breast cancer, overpopulation, and deliberate racial targeting.
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/11/30/planned-parenthoods-mythomania-big-abortion-and-big-lies/
2. As links in this article show, vaccines administered by the WHO in the past have been tainted with sterility additives and given to unsuspecting women. The fact that Gates believes vaccines will help to lower populations hints that he is not opposed to such skullduggery as he works with WHO and the UN to fulfill his mission. You, Imnotandrei, seem to be pretty good about reading links, but some are too lazy. I wrote an article outlining the types of organizations Bill Gates supports"
* WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier — the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines.[13]
http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/03/bill-gates-dystopian-philanthropy-and.html
>You object strongly to GM foods -- which is fine in and of itself -- but what do you propose instead to increase food production?
- People should be taught how to raise crops that promote biodiversity and long term sustainability. GE farming techniques should be banned not only because they destroy the health of people and animals that consume them, but because the farming techniques themselves used to grow GE crops are extremely harmful to the environment.
>When the possibility of food redistribution by the government is even raised, you go into a full-blown panic attack about Stalinist starvation and tyranny. So, how do you propose to improve food distribution?
- My point on food distribution related mainly to Obama's gestapoesque food confiscation executive order which is mainly about food confiscation, rather than distribution:
http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/07/us-government-can-seize-your-farm-food.html
>What's your solution to the problems these things are trying to address, since all you do is point with alarm and panic at other people's solutions?
- I've already addressed some of the key points above. The main issues relate to corruption and deception. If there were not so much greed and corruption in the world, there would be enough resources to distribute to people in need. Because of the sin nature, people and humanity have a tendency towards corruption. That's just the way it is. In order to help mitigate this corruption, there should be a striving for truth and transparency.
Using stealth sterility additives in vaccines, Promoting corruption in big pharma, Monsanto's and Gates' promotion of crony capitalism, forcing GE foods on countries against the will of the people.. All of these things only serve to exacerbate the problems of greed and corruption that have served to make income disparity and poverty a greater problem. Gates is essentially helping to make the problem worse on many levels while throwing money at mainstream news outlines that try to present him in a positive light. People who do research and are willing to read links to sources on the Internet can see through the lies.
1. The phrase "family planning" is often a euphemism for "You need an abortion" when considering how organizations such as Planned Parenthood operate.
DeleteWelcome to the Rick Warden School of Rhetoric:
If it's an accusation against a Christian Rick Approves Of, fabricate a hypothetical that leaves out all the actual *grounds for the accusation* and, if people agree that the hypothetical is unjust, complain the CRAO is oppressed.
If it's a question of Someone Rick Doesn't Like, assume the worst possible interpretation of anything they do, and argue that that supports your conclusion.
For example, asserting that Bill Gates talking about "family planning" must mean abortion, and then going on to attack Planned Parenthood, which spends ~3% of its funds each year on abortion-related services, as a "billion-dollar abortion giant."
Your link, BTW, is full of ad-hominem attacks and faulty logic; suggesting that the founder of an organization's belief in eugenics means that the organization now supports that is akin to saying "The Founding Fathers were racists, therefore America is a racist state."
- People should be taught how to raise crops that promote biodiversity and long term sustainability.
As Anonymous points out, this doesn't solve the problem in the long term. The Earth has a carrying capacity, and we're in danger of reaching it.
- My point on food distribution related mainly to Obama's gestapoesque food confiscation executive order which is mainly about food confiscation, rather than distribution:
And here we go again: The executive order did not order confiscation, and what do you think the point of said "confiscation" would be, even if it happened? See the rhetorical method above: a reasonable observer willing to give even the slightest amount of trust would suspect it was to avoid hoarding and ensure people got fed; but you, being utterly pessimistic, seem to think it's about intentional starvation.
The main issues relate to corruption and deception.
No, the main issues relate to too many people and not enough food, and the fact that that point is already here for some of the world, and approaching for the rest.
Would you accept food redistribution to assure that no one in the world went hungry? And if so, would you accept either the taxation or the confiscation of food needed to make that happen?
If there were not so much greed and corruption in the world, there would be enough resources to distribute to people in need.
Of course, the person you support politically wants to abolish programs that try and help people in need of food, who are, I suppose, expected to wait instead until people are good enough to give them food and hope that time comes soon.
Because of the sin nature, people and humanity have a tendency towards corruption. That's just the way it is. In order to help mitigate this corruption, there should be a striving for truth and transparency.
And yet when it's one of your Christian brethren not being transparent, that's fine, because asking them to be would be "oppression."
As usual, you don't have answers, other than "If everyone was perfect, we wouldn't have problems."
Monsanto's and Gates' promotion of crony capitalism,
Hey -- in the libertarian system promoted again, by your friend Mr. Paul, there's nothing *wrong* with crony capitalism; or are you advocating restricting people's use of their own private property and assocation with those they choose to associate with?
To sum up: Your willingness to assume nothing but the best of people you approve of, and nothing but the absolute worst of people you disagree with, is blinding you to rational argument. You're living in a black-and-white world, and that's not a world that corresponds with reality.
R:The phrase "family planning" is often a euphemism for "You need an abortion" when considering how organizations such as Planned Parenthood operate
ReplyDeleteBold assertion. The link you gave does not back up these accusations. Frankly, a reasonable person is more inclined to trust a medical journal on the subject of health than some crazy religious one.
R:As links in this article show, vaccines administered by the WHO in the past have been tainted with sterility additives and given to unsuspecting women.
Yet, because of the WHO policy for the past 60 years, the population in the world has grown and as have life expactancy. That does not compute with your pet theory of a conspiracy to reduce the population.
R:People should be taught how to raise crops that promote biodiversity and long term sustainability.
Most people have already been taught that in developed coutries. However, traditional agriculture will definitely not be able to sustain the growing population sooner or later.
R:GE farming techniques should be banned not only because they destroy the health of people and animals that consume them, but because the farming techniques themselves used to grow GE crops are extremely harmful to the environment.
Some GMO are harmful, but not all. It would idiotic to throw away completely the concept itself.
R:If there were not so much greed and corruption in the world, there would be enough resources to distribute to people in need.
You do know that there is a limit to how many people an acre can sustain? There are already regions where the overpopulation is a serious problem. No matter how small the corruption is, the maximum amount of crops through traditional agricultural methodes is still the same.
R:Using stealth sterility additives in vaccines, Promoting corruption in big pharma, Monsanto's and Gates' promotion of crony capitalism, forcing GE foods on countries against the will of the people..
Mostly bold assertions from dubious sources that go against logic and reality.
Imnotandrei,
ReplyDelete>For example, asserting that Bill Gates talking about "family planning" must mean abortion, and then going on to attack Planned Parenthood
- Funny, I answered your generalized question in it's context, with no reference to Bill Gates - and then you attack me for that?
You had asked: ">So, do you object to family planning, vaccines, and reproductive health care/contraception?"
>To sum up: Your willingness to assume nothing but the best of people you approve of, and nothing but the absolute worst of people you disagree with, is blinding you to rational argument.
- If you would like to know know specifically about Bill Gates, then why did you ask a generalized question?
The Gates' propaganda movies present a third-world picture of happy single mothers with less amd less children as an ideal of "family planning" - hardly a good model for society.
Do I object to family planning? No, I object to the devaluation of fatherhood and propaganda:
http://www.infowars.com/melinda-gates-wheres-the-controversy-in-saving-lives/
>No, the main issues relate to too many people and not enough food,
If wealth, land and food free from corrupt influences, there would be enough for all today to live. Instead of helping to diminish corruption, Gates and the other Bilderberg cronies are turning the world into a global mafia-run hell on earth.
- Funny, I answered your generalized question in it's context, with no reference to Bill Gates - and then you attack me for that?
Deletea) The original context included Mr. Gates' photograph; however...
b) Then your answer is even more ludicrous -- because it tars *everyone* who does family planning with the "it's a codeword for abortion" label, whether or not it's true.
I had thought to *limit* the range of your fallacy of thought, not expand it.
Do I object to family planning? No, I object to the devaluation of fatherhood and propaganda:
And why didn't you answer this when the question was "do you object..." instead of saying "It's often a euphemism..."
The Gates' propaganda movies present a third-world picture of happy single mothers with less amd less children as an ideal of "family planning" - hardly a good model for society.
Ah -- I see. You'd rather have more children, poorer children, but they have traditionally married fathers. Gotcha. Your priorities are clear -- tradition before food.
If wealth, land and food free from corrupt influences, there would be enough for all today to live.
And how is this redistribution and dismissal of corruption to happen? Since you clearly don't trust the government to have any part in it -- that's "confiscation" and tyranny. And there's no evidence at all that freeing up markets will produce that effect -- the fewer restrictions there are on them, the *greater* the inequality.
Again, as I asserted before, your answer boils down to "If everyone was perfect, we wouldn't have problems."
And, considering the recent track record of those you claim as "Christians", I don't see any reason to think they'd be any more perfect. After all, you spent many, many comments trying to defend someone who wasn't willing to spend a little money to obey the law and keep his congregation safe.
Instead of helping to diminish corruption, Gates and the other Bilderberg cronies are turning the world into a global mafia-run hell on earth.
Hearing this coming from a supporter of Ron Paul is, to put it mildly, amusing.
Do you know how you can fight the power of money? The state. But, of course, that's the very state you clearly don't trust.
R:No, I object to the devaluation of fatherhood and propaganda
ReplyDeleteRick, what the hell you have been smoking? Share some with us, otherwise no one is going to be able to understand what family planing has in common with devaluation of fartherhood 8)
R:The Gates' propaganda movies present a third-world picture of happy single mothers with less amd less children as an ideal of "family planning"
Hm... You must be psychic, my friend. I have no idea how you could have established those are all single mothers in the clip otherwise.
R:If wealth, land and food free from corrupt influences, there would be enough for all today to live.
Rick, I will tell you a little secret... The population is growing and if we do not increase the production of food somehow, people are going to starve.
Anonymous: Rick, I will tell you a little secret... The population is growing and if we do not increase the production of food somehow, people are going to starve.
DeleteIf we don't increase food production and/or stabilise/reduce the population.
Genetic modification of our food is one way to increase production. Rick's claims regarding the dangers are likely to be the usual ignorant fearmongering, and can be dismissed as such (which is not to say that companies like Monsanto are white knights - they're not).
Rick - here a little bit of information for you. Human's have been "genetically modifying" their food sources for thousands of years. The only difference being we have the technology to do it in a more direct manner now.
On the other side, we have population stabilisation/reduction. Rick has already shown irrationality towards this position, so we can ignore his fears here as well. One of the best ways to do that seems to be to increase education around the globe, since increased education is strongly correlated with reduced birth rate. Educating and empowering women seems to be especially effective. Unfortunately, many people still adhere to patriarchal beliefs, and the empowering of the less fortunate, and especially women, runs counter to this.
One thing that seems completely ineffectual regarding both food production and population stabilisation/reduction is prayer, and religious belief in general.
R:If we don't increase food production and/or stabilise/reduce the population.
DeleteThat is true and China has successfully implement the policy of reducing its population through birth control. Though, the increase of food production is still more desirable since it is also about fair distribution. It would be easier to increase our production capacities than to eradicate corruption to feed the poor.
R:Rick's claims regarding the dangers are likely to be the usual ignorant fearmongering, and can be dismissed as such
We already talked about it in a different thread. GMO products could end up being dangerous and more tests should be conducted on these products before releasing them. But it is still a great working concept and additional foundings is a great news.
R:One of the best ways to do that seems to be to increase education around the globe, since increased education is strongly correlated with reduced birth rate.
A higher life expactancy is also a factor. To decrease the population we should also improve our healthcare. It does sound a little paradoxical and I understand why hilly billies of the likes of Rick are confused 8)
Anonymous: That is true and China has successfully implement the policy of reducing its population through birth control.
DeleteNot quite "successfully", given the ration of males to females, and the killing of daughters (to ensure the family name continues) :-(
Anonymous: GMO products could end up being dangerous and more tests should be conducted on these products before releasing them.
True, but products from selective breeding could also be dangerous.
I agree that they likely require further testing, but much of the opposition seems based on fear of the unknown rather than actual rational objections.
Anonymous: A higher life expactancy is also a factor. To decrease the population we should also improve our healthcare.
I'm all for it!
Increased fertility for women would also likely be a boon, since women wouldn't feel the same pressures to have children before ~35.
Of course, Rick seems to lack the basic cognitive skills to actually evaluate things like this. Sadly, far too many of his compatriots (and mine) seem to be in a similar position :-(
R:Not quite "successfully", given the ration of males to females...
DeleteWell, cultural traditions are not easy to break. A happy familly in traditional understanding of China is a familly with numerous children. That conception still persists. But it is changing and after some time the female/male ratio should balance itself out.
R:I agree that they likely require further testing, but much of the opposition seems based on fear of the unknown rather than actual rational objections
People need to get used to new technologies. Trains in the past were also considered a invention of the devil. And going faster than 30 miles per hour would make you loose your mind, according to many people from the 19th century.
R:Sadly, far too many of his compatriots (and mine) seem to be in a similar position :-(
Rome was not built in a day, progress is still slowly making its way. A "Rick" from the 21st century is still much better than a "Rick" from the 19th century.
Anonymous,
ReplyDelete>Rick, what the hell you have been smoking? Share some with us, otherwise no one is going to be able to understand what family planing has in common with devaluation of fatherhood 8)...Hm... You must be psychic, my friend. I have no idea how you could have established those are all single mothers in the clip otherwise.
- The Gates movie I linked to does not show one single male in the entire video, however, it does show lots of happy play-dough mothers with children by their straw huts and little villages with happy cheerful music as the commenter states, that women want to be empowered to make decisions for themselves, "They want change for themselves and for their children."
http://www.infowars.com/melinda-gates-wheres-the-controversy-in-saving-lives/
This all implies that men are simply insignificant non-essential, if not treacherous, who would dare to consider children a mutual responsibility requiring mutual decision making.
You can defend this view if you want to, but please don't pretend that this attitude makes for a truly happy and functional society. It will help to further Bill's ultimate agenda, however, to reduce third world populations with more dystopian misinformation.
R:This all implies that men are simply insignificant non-essential, if not treacherous, who would dare to consider children a mutual responsibility requiring mutual decision making.
DeleteThis does not follow at all. Fallacy of composition. Having a bunch of happy potatoe-shaped women with children without males does not imply that a father in a family is not needed. Your statement is too much of a leap.
R:It will help to further Bill's ultimate agenda, however, to reduce third world populations with more dystopian misinformation.
Bold assertion.
Anonymous, go easy on Rick - he seems incapable of assessing conspiracy theories in a rational manner.
Delete>Having a bunch of happy potatoe-shaped women with children without males does not imply that a father in a family is not needed.
ReplyDelete1. Not one man or father is presented in the entire video.
2. Single mother families are by their happy homes in happy villages in a happy world - all with no fathers.
3. The narrator describes the issue of abortion and women's rights stating, "They want change for themselves and for their children."
- Yeah, sure, no implications whatsoever. It may be that coming from Russia you admire the role of the hozaika and the women who enjoy making all the decisions for the family. This is much easier when there is no father around, isn't it?
1. Not one man or father is presented in the entire video.
DeleteAnd in the entirety of science, no reference to a god or gods is made.
Single mother families are by their happy homes in happy villages in a happy world - all with no fathers.
An unjustified assertion.
eah, sure, no implications whatsoever. It may be that coming from Russia you admire the role of the hozaika and the women who enjoy making all the decisions for the family. This is much easier when there is no father around, isn't it?
So Rick wants to go back to the days when men made ALL of the decisions.
How enlightened :-)
R:Not one man or father is presented in the entire video.
ReplyDeleteSo what? There is also no reference whatsoever to doctors. Does that mean that it implies that people are happier without doctors?
R:Single mother families are by their happy homes in happy villages in a happy world - all with no fathers.
Do prove those are all single mothers. Just the fact that there are no men in the clip is no evidence whatsoever of them being single
R:The narrator describes the issue of abortion and women's rights stating, "They want change for themselves and for their children."
And what is wrong with that statement?
P.S.
ReplyDeleteR:It may be that coming from Russia you admire the role of the hozaika and the women who enjoy making all the decisions for the family. This is much easier when there is no father around, isn't it?
Ad hom attack and red herring. Not tired of throwing fallacies?
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